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caindude   2009-05-06 13:17
please make this work.
manual regedit i can get it to run but it is not useable.
Andre   2009-05-06 15:58
Second the request.

I'd glad consider paying an upgrade fee for proper support of vista and Windows 7 as I am sure others would. I am also sure there are developers who would be able to lend a hand if required.
Ian Bevan   2009-05-06 19:16
I agree. I would pay for a new license (in fact I have multiple) for Windows 7 support.
Lyall   2009-05-06 19:44
Same here :(
Kraznet   2009-05-06 20:07
I'm trying to use latest V3.0.5 on W7 x64 , When I try install it I get this message :

Ultramon encountered a fatal error and will exit .
Version :3.0.5
OS: 6.1.7100 x64
Source file: .\ButtonRendererVistaComp[osited.cpp
Libe 72
Return Value:0
Last error :1814

Regards
Kraznet
jahlewis   2009-05-06 23:30
I get the same error, but with x86 on my 32bit version of win7rc 7100
redzot   2009-05-07 00:26
I would also. I am using 7 on multiple display systems (i havent tried UM on it yet) and it would be nice to have UM as a utility.

zot
ERJ   2009-05-07 02:58
Another request for a working Windows 7 RC ultramon. For the time being I am using the nView desktop management that comes with nvidia drivers but I really don't like them.
David   2009-05-07 04:27
Well shoot... I'm just getting ready to format my system and install Windows 7 and came here to check on compatibility.

I've been using the beta on Vista x64 for some time and it works great. Hopefully, they can resolve the Windows 7 issues ASAP.
David   2009-05-07 04:39
Confirmed this works on Windows 7 RC x64:

http://www.binaryfortress.com/displayfusion/
todd   2009-05-07 05:06
FWIW, I'm using Win7 RC x64 and am using UltraMon v2.7.1.0 instead of the 3.x version. I had too many problems with the 3.x version under Win7, the v2.7.1 version seems to be fine. It doesn't have the same Aero style, but I have had no crashes and all the apps seem to work. I can't the Windows buttons working, but I've just resorted to using the new Win7 hotkeys for moving Windows between monitors.

I've tried DisplayFusion...wasn't satisfied with it. UltraMon (when it works) is a much better fit for me.

I'm just surprised that this concept is so difficult to develop. You see the crazy Windows chrome things that Stardock does with WindowBlinds and ObjectDock, you would think that this wouldn't be that difficult.
Obviously it is...or else the market is so niche that there isn't that much of a demand for it (which I find surprising).
Nick   2009-05-07 06:37
I too would pay for a new license if Windows 7 was fully supported.

Thanks.

Nick
Kraznet   2009-05-07 09:24
I prefer Ultramon as well . I liked it the first time I tried it .I use 4 monitors and like the way you can move a window to any monitor left or right and the way the graphic appears on the top of the window so you can choose which monitor . Alas it seems this doesn't work the same in W7 , well at least not when I use 2.71.

Regards
Kraznet
caindude   2009-05-07 09:53
"Confirmed this works on Windows 7 RC x64:

http://www.binaryfortress.com/displayfusion/ "

sort of works but shows all apps on the primary taskbar, doesnt have win7 visual style, cant make second taskbar transparent consistantly and buttons on the second taskbar dont work properly.
I would say ultramon is closer to being functional but it just looks wrong in win7.
Christian Studer   2009-05-07 11:04
I'm going to look into Windows 7 support for the 3.0.6 release.

Disabling the window buttons in the registry will allow you to use UltraMon, to do this run regedit.exe, go to 'HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Realtime Soft\UltraMon\<version>\Window Buttons', then change the value of 'Maximize to Desktop Button' and 'Move Window Button' from one to zero.

Christian Studer - www.realtimesoft.com
overclicked1   2009-05-07 14:14
Thanks for the tip Christian, it worked. UltraMon crashed after install, but after using your two registry hacks, it's at least useable. The text is very dark/unreadable on the taskbar, but now at least, the main taskbar is not over cluttered.
Leginag   2009-05-07 21:00
Thanks for the reg hack =)
I'm just adding my support for the great product and for getting win7 support =)
J6009   2009-05-08 06:27
I too am using 2.&.1 with Windows 7 RC and its working after using the registry hacks in the previous post.
FyrmnJ
Matt   2009-05-09 22:53
3.0.5 working with stated reg hacks on Windows 7 RC here.

Obviously still problems with the smart task bar style, and button text. Strangely, the text on my smart task bar buttons is transparent...

Obligatory: also would love to see 7 support.

Thanks though, even with the quirks on the new OSes, been loving this app for a long time now.
Dave Lowther   2009-05-12 23:30
And when should we expect a 3.06 release / preview / etc?
Christian Studer   2009-05-13 08:30
I don't have a release date yet.

Christian Studer - www.realtimesoft.com
Andre   2009-05-14 21:39
Are we talking days, weeks, months, years?
Peter   2009-05-15 02:26
I to am having the same error, and prefer the feature to switch from monitor to monitor, the optional taskbar doesn't matter to me, i'd like to have it working again, as I use it with a media system for presentations of multiple monitors + projector...

Speed up the updates!
Christian Studer   2009-05-15 09:03
Andre, I don't know yet, I have just started working on Windows 7 support.

Christian Studer - www.realtimesoft.com
Will   2009-05-18 03:20
Thanks for working on it. I'm really looking forward to getting Ultramon to work with Windows 7.
dstjohn   2009-05-18 11:58
Works like a charm under the new windows 7 rc ultimate x64, had same issues as everyone here, switched theme to windows classic and re-installed,
now everything works as it should.

The obvious issue is with aero, give the guy time,
from one developer to another, patience is key.

Displayfusion is a decent product, but you pay for what you get. That little button to switch a window from one desktop to another is like crack, you just cant kick the habit and nothing else suffices.

Oscars MMT switcher button only works with firefox/thunderbird and other misc apps, but is not present in windows explorer in classic theme or aero.

Keep up the good work!

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corcoran   2009-05-19 01:34
Without a doubt this is one of the most essential pieces of software for anyone running windows and need proper MMS.

absolutely brilliant. well done Christian!
Alex   2009-05-19 02:48
The most important thing for the Win7 release is, that die SmartTaskbars look nice :D

Don't care about Superbar Features :p
ObiYawn   2009-05-24 05:40
Yes, I can start UltraMon on W7 when using the registry hacks, but I cannot switch my primary display from my desktop LCD screen to my HDTV. It doesn't do anything when I instruct UltraMon to enable my second monitor. I have to go into the nVidia control panel, enable the second monitor there, and then UltraMon allows me to switch to it as my primary display. However, when I switch back to my LCD monitor and then try to go to the HDTV again, it again doesn't work and I have to go into the nVidia control panel and activate the HDTV again.
Mike Hunt   2009-05-24 12:53
Use 2.71 on Win7. No hacks needed. Window buttons work but are invisible. Don't expect smart taskbar to work. I don't use it.
paladin44   2009-05-25 06:25
^--^
Are you using W7 32 or 64bit?
Mike Hunt   2009-05-25 09:40
32
FyrmnJ   2009-05-26 02:22
I too am using ver 2.7.1 with win7 RC. no problems at all. The move buttons are there but they are invisible. If you click in the area where you would usually see the button you will get the small click on window that will allow you to move your main window to whichever monitor you want to.
FyrmnJ

"If all is not lost where is it?"
Andrew Cady   2009-05-27 23:52
I know this is sounding like a broken record. Buy I also would pay an upgrade fee to have this work on windows 7 RC

Anyone from realtimesoft reading this? Email me
Mixerguy   2009-06-02 04:18
Christian is around and reads the posts. His "I'm working on it" is good enough for me. With the functional changes to the taskbar, there's a lot to re-work, I'm sure, to make it function and look like it should.

It's a matter of time. Have patience and hopefully, all should be good to go by the time RTM rolls around.
Winuser   2009-06-02 10:37
We always get a "Im working on it" from the developer. For something that cost so much for a simple app new releases should be on time. Vista is dead ans gone and we still do not have a 100% compatible vista version, so now Windows 7 is here i suspect we wont see a full version until Windows 8. Windows 7 do make ultramon redundant because you can already drag full screen windows from monitor to monitor and easily maximize using the docking ability. Aero peak and the super bar takes care of the rest. Ultramon was needed in Vista but not Windows 7.
Chris Freestone   2009-06-03 01:24
You're by and large a bloody ungrateful bunch, demanding perfect working support from an app you've probably only paid $15 for on an OS that's still in release candidate.

If Windows 7 was a production release already then maybe, just maybe, you'd have an excuse to bitch. Give the guy a break, or learn to code it yourselves...

Freaky
Winuser   2009-06-03 04:46
Is not that were ungrateful it just that with every OS release we have to sacrifice a piece of functionality.

The program works fine on XP no argument there, but my company have migrated from XP to Vista a long time ago which makes the license useless. Having the extra taskbar without thumbnail previews made it very difficult for users to adapt to once the taskbar was filled with windows.

Now were testing the Windows 7 Build 7100 preparing to migrate when the time comes in 2010 Q4 and im getting alot of feedback that using the built in Aero snap, Aero Peak, and the Super Bar was way better than Vista with Ultramon.
So unless someone decides they want to stick with XP then by all means they can use ultramon to its fullest potential, using Vista or later does not justify spending $15 for partial compatibility.
Bruce Gold   2009-06-03 14:44
Thank you guys for blazing the trail so that when I installed Windows 7 RC, I was able to use my Ultramon again almost immediately (once I came to this thread).
Dan Draper   2009-06-04 03:13
$15.00 for Ultramon????? I paid $40.00. Love the product, but I would like to see quicker updates out of the company. As it is now, I will not be using it any longer because Wndows 7 meets my needs so far. Realtime Software should charge a maintenance fee to fund their upgrade efforts. Can't really complain when I have used the product for years at $40.00 with no upgrade costs. It worked flawlessly on XP which is what I bought it for. Now if I was paying for maintenance, it would be a different story (which is probably why they don't charge a maintenance fee).
rasqual   2009-06-04 08:44
I need a fix as well.

I can use it without the buttons for now; a right-click on the title bar gives me the same thing if I'm being mouse-centric.

However, the secondary display's taskbar needs to be brought up to date for Win7. I wouldn't mind if it remained functionally like Vista/XP (I'm still not sure I like Win7's taskbar approach to app presentation) -- BUT just now the apps on the second display's taskbar have text that's really weird. It's like an odd font (maybe) with a blue color a lot like the desktop (I'm still with Win7 defaults).
Oli   2009-06-10 01:24
One nice fix that you can do for the ultramon taskbar to make it look nicer and to fit in with windows 7 more, is to put it at the side, rather than the bottom. Now, you just get icons for programs, no text (like windows 7) and everything looks perfect :)

Hope this helps someone

Oli
Sovereign   2009-06-12 05:54
I had UltraMon 3.04 (or something like that) working under Vista x64 and it worked fine in Windows 7 x64 (upgraded). I'm just going to wait until official support is released before I go pushing buttons again.
Morgon   2009-06-12 15:32
I don't find Win7's native Multi-monitor support to be 'good enough' for me. If you do, why are you bothering to post.

I definitely need my hotkey for moving windows to each screen (for me, I used Alt-`, just above Tab) - it's second nature to me now, and having to WinKey-Arrow is just a horrendous pain.

Secondly, knowing which windows are on which screen is invaluable if you work with so many applications at once like I do.

"I'm working on it" is a perfectly acceptable response, people. After all, he could simply say "I'm not interested right now" or not respond at all.

Developing software - especially on a new platform (and yes, the Windows 7 API is bound to be different than any previous versions, even Vista) is not an easy process.
Ryan   2009-06-15 01:12
@Morgon:

To simulate that hotkey, you might want to look into AutoHotkey to remap Alt` to Windows + Right Arrow. In Vista, I have ultramon set Ctrl + Alt + Numpad - to the move window option. I have autohotkey set up to remap caps lock to trigger the same keypress.

For me, the big functionality for ultramon is the smart taskbar, followed by the move window button. I'm sure that some savvy AutoHotkey scripting could simulate the "Move to other window" option easily, but would not be able to reproduce the aforementioned features.
Robert   2009-06-15 20:13
bump :)

I bought a license a week before switching my desktop to windows 7, since then i had to downgrade ultramon to 2.7. The only feature i use now is the taskbar un ultramon.

Hopefully v3 will get compatible with 7 soon, so we can exploit it to it's full potential.
Afahdih   2009-06-16 05:54
@Oli:

Thanks for the tip, it works great!

@All:

How hard would it be to have an option to display the tasks icons the same way (as icons only) when the taskbars are horizontal (top/bottom)? That would work for me. I don't particularly care for Win 7's app preview on the taskbar, it just slows me down. Does anyone know how to shut it off?

-Afahdih
Bart   2009-06-17 02:21
looking for a multimon solution I tried Ultramon. I second all that has been posted above, too bad. Hope you folks work this out soon.

Bart
Dalek1   2009-06-23 17:19
So Christian, Not to sound pushy or anything but you started working on Windows 7 a month ago... Any news?
I mean I’m a paying customer and have stated I would actually pay extra for the upgrade. And I really miss ultramon.
Thanks in advance!!!
bdogg   2009-06-24 11:31
I've been using UltraMon for years on XP and then Vista (which I haven't had any issues with since 3.0.2 or 3) and now 7. I'm experiencing a few issues with Windows 7 RC 7100 and UltraMon 3.0.5 with 2 monitors. I have the transparent text on the smart taskbar, like others have mentioned. Switching to basic fixes this, but the taskbar is really dark and it's hard to read the text.

When I try and drag a full screen window from one monitor to the other it jumps back to the original monitor (which as mentioned earlier is built into 7). If you turn off "enable moving of maximized windows using the mouse" under the General tab in Options it fixes this.

When I have the smart taskbar's Always on Top setting set to Same as main taskbar it isn't on top even though my main one is set that way. Setting Always on Top to Yes corrects this.

Just wanted to share the issues I've experienced and workarounds for them. Can't wait till the next update. I would love to see full superbar abilities, but would settle for the classic taskbar style set to match the size and appearance of the superbar when it's set to show taskbar buttons.

Keep up the good work.
Christian Studer   2009-06-25 10:01
So far there were no major issues, I hope to have 3.0.6 ready sometime next month, but can't guarantee it.

Christian Studer - www.realtimesoft.com
Albert Wiersch   2009-06-25 15:22
I'd love to see Windows 7 support too. I hope to build a new machine in January with Windows 7, but if UltraMon doesn't work with it, then I may stick with Vista since UltraMon is so useful my productivity would probably go down were I to have to go back to Taskbar "superclutter" with Windows 7.
Jose   2009-06-26 01:22
umm.. I set ultramon it to compatibility > winxp sp2 and all seems to be working. guessing it would be the same as going into the registry without having to do all that.
Websquad   2009-06-26 03:28
I've not ordered my Win 7/Pro upgrade, but will in a few minutes. My question: how well does Win 7 deal with multiple monitors? I'm using three monitors with Win XP/Pro and Ultramon, and am very pleased with the results. However, I confess that I only use a small portion of Ultramon's capability in my current setup. So, should October come around (I'll wait for the production RTM version) and I get my Win 7/Pro upgrade in my sweaty hands, will I miss anything besides the Ultramon task bar on all three monitors?
darren   2009-06-26 07:56
alright, i'm on board. i would love to see an updated final release, the last public stable (according to the site) was 2006... but i would rather see an updated beta with full windows 7 support.

that said, the main functionality of ultramon does work with windows 7, it's just a little bit "off". the errors are easily fixable (read up on this page, simple registry edits). the entire feature set is probably somewhat dysfunctional (backgrounds, screensavers, etc - i'm not sure, they aren't that important to me). the only things i would love to see fixed: the taskbar without the washed out text (so you can read it) and more "superbar" functionality. if you open a window onto a secondary screen, it should show either a new superbar icon on that screen's taksbar --- or somehow it should update the real superbar icon on the main screen so you at least know one instance is currently running.

this is better than nothing for now, i bought 3 licenses, and while there is demand for more i won't buy any until it is running a little nicer for 7.

thanks though, it's great so far!
Christian Studer   2009-06-26 08:04
Websquad, I expect all UltraMon features to work fine on Windows 7 with 3.0.6, basically the same as on Vista. It's not finished yet though, so there might still be issues.

Christian Studer - www.realtimesoft.com
Lee Murawski   2009-07-01 12:07
Windows 7 is suppose to have better multiple monitor support than previous versions of Windows. What that actually means, anyones guess.
Antti   2009-07-02 08:45
I dont know about you guys, but I didn't have any problems with Vista x64 & Ultramon 3.0.5 Beta. Now using win7 RC x64 and I am too missing ultramon taskbars. Hoping to get it soon. Good luck with the development!
TroyM   2009-07-02 12:30
Woot! it is now "Next Month". My self, I am hanging out for this new version.

Old version sorta works on W7rc 32bit. I get the error, but i have the taskbar on the other monitor, in aero. Yes, the test is barely readable, and it stops the win7 taskbar feature (hover over an icon to see multiple pages of it open) from working.

Other than that, cant wait for full w7 support. Tnx for the good work christian, and i know we all hope youa re able to release 3.0.6 in the coming weeks.
LeeD   2009-07-08 01:04
Hi Christian

Fantastic news that a Windows 7-friendly version is coming soon.

Are you looking to add a Windows 7-style taskbar to the 2nd monitor, so it works like Windows 7 and not like previous versions of Windows? e.g. middle mouse click, jump lists etc supported?
Christian Studer   2009-07-08 08:33
Not for 3.0 final, but this is certainly something I'm going to look into for a future release.

Christian Studer - www.realtimesoft.com
Bob   2009-07-09 23:29
Christian, you seem to be constantly looking at things for future releases. As is said in another thread, Vista is about to be debunked and UltraMon is still in Beta stages for it. Come on man, pull your finger out, you take money for a product which you do not really support. In this game you should be running concurrent betas with new OS`s as they become available. You have had numerous offers of help to develop UM from uses on this forum so why don't you take some of these offers up.

Looking at other products on the market now there is one in particular which is miles ahead of UM in terms of OS support the only thing it lacks is the use of profiles and right click context menus to "Move to monitor #" and I am pretty sure they will both come. Oh and the latest beta of the software in question has title bar buttons for moving windows between screens that actually work and are embedded in the titlebar properly.

UM was a legend in its hay day but your lack of development and keeping up with the times has really let your customers down.

Nearly every post in this forum is negative, can you not see how disappointed your paying customers are, I think it it time you sorted this out once and for all and either sell UM on to someone who can do it justice or just fold it up and stop keeping people hanging on a thread waiting for something that never seems to come.

I am sure your loyal fans will jump to your defense and flame this post but we all know deep down they really feel the same after all the position of the UM software speaks for itself!
Hans de Jongh   2009-07-10 18:43
Hee Christian!

Keep up the good work! Great app!
I try to sell it for you to everybody who has 2 monitors.

Regards

Hans
Chris   2009-07-13 23:28
@Bob

Wow man, calm the heck down about telling him what to do...
Mike   2009-07-14 01:03
Count me in as a paid UM customer for Win7 64-bit once the new release comes out -
Chuck   2009-07-14 13:19
While I love Ultramon as well, I think it may be a death nail in its coffin to not incorporate functionality for W7. Seeing as how according Business Week, 41% of users/business will incorporate W7 and compare that to 8% for Vista. That 8% is what is current, it took this long to build up to 8%. In short, I take that to mean the earlybird gets the worm in this case. The faster any company product works smoothly with W7 it is money in your pocket. Why one would not investigate a new O/S from MS asap with it's own product, I'll never know. While I do love me some Ultramon Supertaskbar, I should never have to regedit a product to get it to work, EVEN though it says right on the box it is not supported with W7. I think you get my point. Can I get an AMEN!!!

Chuck
Lisa   2009-07-15 23:42
Your new beta release is still not showing the buttons in top right hand corner.

What's up with that?

I guess I will go back to 2.07. It works then but I have video blackouts!

Please get the new beta release working please!!!!
Pieter   2009-07-16 04:30
3.0.6 allegedly fixes the problem with the buttons in the taskbar but not in my setup (Win7 64bit).
Switching this off again in the registry fixes the problem.
James O'Toole   2009-07-16 05:37
I have been using this software for quite sometime, and unfortunately for the developer his lack of timely development. I refuse to purchase his software.

I do hope that he will eventually understand users will not purchase his product without his continued support and development. Maybe at that time I will actually purchase a copy and encourage others to do the same.
Christian Studer   2009-07-16 05:54
Make sure the buttons are enabled under UltraMon Options > Buttons and Menu Commands.

Also make sure you're not running UltraMon in Vista compatibility mode, to do this go to C:\Program Files\UltraMon, right-click UltraMon.exe and select Properties from the menu, then select the Compatibility tab and uncheck 'Run this program in compatibility mode'.

Christian Studer - www.realtimesoft.com
Kevin   2009-10-30 03:34
I have it working in Windows 7, if I choose the Windows Classic background. Before I was using a custom background, and I would get the error. Anyway that might be fixed in the future?
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