Shonk 2004-07-03 13:18
Catalyst 4.2 + 4.2 Control Panel works on any nvidia driver upto current (6171)
Catalyst 4.3 + 4.2 Control Panel works on any nvidia driver upto current (6171)
Catalyst 4.3 + 4.3 Control Panel works on any nvidia driver 44.90 and before
Catalyst 4.4 + 4.4 Control Panel Works on any nvidia driver 44.90 and before
Catalyst 4.4 + 4.2 Control Panel you get 2d but no direct draw,direct 3d,AGP with any driver after 44.90
Catalyst 4.5 + 4.5 Control Panel works on any nvidia driver 44.90 and before
Catalyst 4.4 + 4.2 Control Panel you get 2d but no direct draw,direct 3d,AGP with any driver after 44.90
Catalyst 4.6 + 4.6 Control Panel works on NO nvidia driver upto current (6171)
Catalyst 4.6 + 4.5 Control Panel works you get 2d but no direct draw,direct 3d,AGP with any driver after 44.90
Catalyst 4.7 Beta + 4.7 Beta Control Panel works on NO nvidia driver upto Current (6171)
Catalyst 4.7 + 4.5 Control Panel works you get 2d but no direct draw,direct 3d,AGP with any driver after 44.90
if you loose display on your nvida card(s) at any time just install 4.2 drivers and control panel if your useing the latest nvidia drivers
or 4.5 drivers and control panel if your useing 44.90 or earlier drivers
some notes just incase ATI see this
the no direct 3d/draw issue on some driver combinations is to do with ati smart crashing (ati2sgag.exe)
also ati control panel fails to work with multiple cards (ati/nvidia) it crashes in the taskbar
when i first thaught this was an nvidia issue i contacted nvidia they where most keen and tried to resolve the problem
(thanks Nick Triantos + Joey Barrameda)
i have e-mailed ATI on this issue about 6 times since i have found out its an ati issue
guess what
No reply
so there you have it ati still suck for support
this is my first and last ati card
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Shonk 2004-07-03 13:26
Some notes on my setup just incase it helps someone
Abit NF7-S 2.0 Motherboard
AGP Slot = Crucial Radeon 9800 Pro DVI + Analogue + TV
PCI Slot 1 = Inno Geforce FX 5200 128meg 128bit DVI + Analogue + TV
PCI Slot 2 = Gainward Geforce FX 5200 64meg 64bit DVI + Analogue + TV
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Shonk 2004-07-03 14:00
Procedure for installing
6171 Nvidia Drivers and 4.3 Catalyst + 4.2 Control Panel
Install Catalyst 4.2 + Control Panel
Install 6171 Nvidia Drivers
enable monitors and set them up how you want them
then install 4.3 driver only
if you do it any other way the nvidia cards will fail to start
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Shonk 2004-07-03 14:02
Procedure for installing 44.90 Nvidia Drivers
and 4.6/4.7 Catalyst + 4.5 Control Panel
Install 4.5 Catalyst + Control Panel
Install 44.90 Nvidia Drivers
enable all displays and set them up how you like them
then install 4.6 or 4.7 driver only
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ECarlson 2004-07-04 04:23
Thanks. I guess I won't be buying any ATI cards, at least not until they fix this problem with NVidia cards.
- Eric, www.InvisibleRobot.com
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Shonk 2004-07-07 10:09
just mailed ati again
£5 says they dont reply
hopefully nvidia will have more luck with contacting ati over the matter
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Brian 2004-07-30 07:54
I have been having trouble with an ATI and Nvidia set up.
When I first install the Nvidia drivers both monitors work, but I can't get the tv tuner on the ati to work.
When I reboot the tv tuner works but the second monitor doesn't.
Do you think reverting to an old driver will fix that?
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Brian 2004-07-30 07:54
I have been having trouble with an ATI and Nvidia set up.
When I first install the Nvidia drivers both monitors work, but I can't get the tv tuner on the ati to work.
When I reboot the tv tuner works but the second monitor doesn't.
Do you think reverting to an old driver will fix that?
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ECarlson 2004-07-30 10:24
I've heard that the TV tuners in those cards only work in single-monitor systems. I think you need a separate TV tuner card.
- Eric, www.InvisibleRobot.com
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Shonk 2004-08-10 04:19
just to keep you guys informed
as of
catalyst 4.9 beta
and
Nvidia 6562
the drivers still arnt playing nice with each other
and the ati drivers disable the nvidia drivers
i realy thaught nvidia would have got on ati's back over this
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IDigPhish 2004-08-15 05:04
I have a dual monitor setup with the ATI Radeon 8500DV and the Nvidia GeForce 2 mx 400.
ITS BEEN THE BIGGEST PAIN IN THE A$$ for two years of my life!!
Question: Have you tried using the SmartGart uninstaller that is available on the ATI website? http://ati.com/support/drivers/misc/catalystutils.html
ALSO: Im trying to understand your suggestion for installation proceedures. Are you saying you should install the Nvdia drivers first? Should you do this in the "Enable VGA Mode" that is available using F8 on bootup?
I can get both the monitors to work but I NEED the Open GL and D3D to work with some graphics software I use.
Thanks for any help...
IDP
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IDigPhish 2004-08-15 05:22
oh, by the way...
ATI HAS GOT TO HAVE THE WORST CUSTOMER SERVICE OF ANY COMPANY I HAVE EVER DEALT WITH.
If you email customer support and are lucky enough to get any response at all... the response will come weeks after you sent your email and will be a canned reply saying something about how they are not at fault. I have had many ATI issues that required customer support, but they are NEVER willing to help.
THANKS, ATI!
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Shonk 2004-08-15 16:21
wow ati replied to you?
ive sent 11 messages to them now over about 4 months
not 1 reply
anyway
best thing to do is use catalyst 4.2 on the ati card and the latest nvidia driver on nvidia card
install any way you like
catalyst 4.2 is the last driver that dont F with nvidia cards
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Shonk 2004-08-15 16:23
it wont be my concern for much longer anyway
ati can go shove it
gona be replaceing my 9800 pro with a nvidia 6800
and will be back to a 100% nvidia system thank god
i knew it was a mistake buying an ati but the price was just to good at the time compared to a nvidia 5900
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Shonk 2004-08-15 17:21
oh ive been looking for something to remove smartgart as i knew that was what was mashing up the nvidia drivers
i didnt realise that ati had released something to remove it
ok i can now get
latest catalyst and latest nvidia's working together
i havnt done indepth testing but here's how i got it working
uninstall any nvidia drivers have no nvidia drivers installed at all
then upgrade to ati 4.9 or whatever
reboot
make sure ati smart runs and enables hardware accel on the ati
then run the smart uninstaller
reboot
install nvidia driver of your choice
all should be good
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Shonk 2004-08-15 17:31
http://www.shonk.org/Pictures/file/Desktop.jpg
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Shonk 2004-08-15 17:32
http://www.shonk.org/Pictures/file/Desktop.jpg
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Shonk 2004-08-15 17:33
Third Time The Charm
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Shonk 2004-09-22 12:31
update
this issue seems to be finally fixed by ati
im running 6632 nvidia drivers and catalyst 4.9
without any messing around of removing smartgart
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ECarlson 2004-09-23 10:14
Thanks for keeping us updated.
- Eric, www.InvisibleRobot.com
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